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Which Carby ?????

  • m

    Hey guys, how's it going ? I'm new to the group, so first post. I need a new carby for my Honda VT600 2006; my current one is leaking fuel out the breather hoses quite heavily. Supposedly it has just been redone, but as soon as i turned the fuel tap on it was leaking without riding it. I'm told the current carby is off a dirt bike and runs rich. My bike is a bobber/rat bike style - has a pod filter with very short free flowing exhaust. I thought a standard carby wouldn't be up to the job but TJ said in a youtube video that a standard carby would suck more air than you could use. I suppose i want something that i can just buy and pay someone to install - my mechanical skills are zilch. Brutal customs have a few carbs but i think they are the inside for a rebuild ????? Any feedback would be awesome !

    Cheers guys

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  • TJ

    @milkbar post up some pics of this carb please good sir!

    DO FUN SHIT!
    Check the FAQ's here for tons of tuning info and more!! - t.ly/MA6r6

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  • m

  • TJ

    @milkbar if you buy a stock carb, youlll need one from a 2004 - 2007 VT600 they all have the TPS sensor. You can find them on ebay but you'll need to rebuild them and set them up with a v stack and a performance tuning kit, but it should hopefully solve your issues, you will need to tune but we have a bunch of videos and resources here on the forum for all that goodness! 
    https://shoptjbc.com/community/brutalforums/faq

     

    DO FUN SHIT!
    Check the FAQ's here for tons of tuning info and more!! - t.ly/MA6r6

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  • TJ

    @milkbar yeah that carb aint gonna cut it. also, these bikes dont like pod filters. too much turbulence in the venturi

    DO FUN SHIT!
    Check the FAQ's here for tons of tuning info and more!! - t.ly/MA6r6

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  • m

    do you by any chance have one to buy that is ready to go and be fitted on on Brutal Customs site ???? I thought pod filter meant more air = better performance ?????

  • TJ

    @milkbar before we go any further please take a mninute to read this -

    Any time you change your intake or exhaust, you need to tune your bike or you will be doing damage to your motor by causing either a rich or lean condition. Plain and simple, don't use a cone/pod/pancake filter. There's a reason I don't sell them. I don't offer anything that's half-assed or not good for your bike. No matter how you tune the bike with a cone filter/pod/pancake, you will always have either sub par performance or an issue with one or more throttle stages. Most of the Honda Shadows have a vacuum operated CV carburetor or two, which means that the slide is operated by the engine vacuum in the venturi of the carburetor. For the slide to operate properly the venturi requires a steady non-turbulent negative vacuum, and a pod/cone/pancake filter creates a large amount of turbulence right next to the slide, destroying the carbs ability to properly deliver the right amount of metered portions of fuel and air to the motor.

    On a flow meter bench test, pod filters created a stupid amount of turbulence in the carburetor, especially between shifting and when dropping or applying throttle quickly. Whereas a velocity stack succeeded in reducing the turbulence in the venturi, making tuning easier and allowing the motor to perform better, resulting in smoother acceleration, more responsive throttle, and an increase of available power across all throttle stages. Most folks aren't aware, but the stock intake system is actually designed around a velocity stack principle - both dual and single carb models, because the engineers know this is an effective way of delivering air to a CV carb. 
    Now it bears mentioning that on a mechanical carb where the slide is operated by a cable attached to the throttle, a pod filter is less of an issue. Granted, on a mechanical carb a velocity stack does improve performance, but a pod/cone filter will work. The CV carbs on the Honda Shadow line are well made, easy to use and easy to upkeep, requiring minimal knowledge and skill to maintain and upgrade them. If you want to increase your bike's performance and get rid of the fugly stock intake, pick up the velocity stack/s and a performance jet kit from the site, shoptjbc.com,

    DO FUN SHIT!
    Check the FAQ's here for tons of tuning info and more!! - t.ly/MA6r6

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  • m

    Hey TJ, you are awesome - sincerely. I'm so appreciative of you taking the time to answer my question in an in depth way. This is my first bike and i don't like doing mechanical work, but i was stuck and didn't know which way to turn, but because of your explanation i now have clear direction. Keep up the good work and God bless you !

  • TJ

    @milkbar no prob! have fun!! 

    DO FUN SHIT!
    Check the FAQ's here for tons of tuning info and more!! - t.ly/MA6r6

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